The Ensemblex
Exchange Podcast
Thought-provoking conversations with credit and fintech founders, builders, and investors.
Shawn Budde, credit industry veteran and co-founder of Ensemblex, is joined by the most interesting people in fintech, from seasoned experts at big-name firms to innovators building the next generation of start-ups. They share their stories and their on-the-ground perspective of the challenges and trends shaping fintech: AI hype, investors' outlook on fintech, emerging markets, the promises versus realities of the latest tech, evergreen wisdom on managing fraud and risk, and more. Entertaining, inspiring, and practical - tune in to The Ensemblex Exchange Podcast biweekly on all major platforms.
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Funding Update: Wrangling Data (and the zoo): Stories From a Repeat Founder
Re-listen to Episode 3 with Stephanie Hanson from Gestalt, with an added fundraising Q & A.
Start-up life is exciting, demanding, and occasionally bizarre. You may find yourself working from the bathroom or partying with monkeys, lemurs, and camels. So did Stephanie Hansen, today's guest and an indefatigable entrepreneur building her second company, Gestalt. We chat about the challenges of growing a start-up — finances, hiring, and creating a strong culture — and squeezing lots of life in around long work hours.
S1E10
The Case for Cash Flow Underwriting
Cash flow underwriting: it's the next big thing. And so it has been for nearly a decade, admits Nikki Cross. Nikki is the Senior Director of Data Science Solutions at Nova Credit, an alternative credit data platform. She joins Shawn to make the case for cash flow underwriting. Why do lenders struggle with incorporating cash flow data, and how can they speed up the process? Why should lenders make the effort? By the end of the episode, you'll be excited about cash flow underwriting...the next big thing.
S1E9
What’s Next for Bank Sponsorships?
Bank sponsorships have powered the proliferation of fintech in the past decade. Now under increasing scrutiny from regulators and in the wake of the Synapse catastrophe, this foundational element of the fintech industry is at a crossroads.
On today's episode, Shawn asks Brian Enneking, COO of First Electronic Bank – a leading bank in fintech partnerships – what keeps him up at night. Shawn and Brian discuss the challenges the industry has faced and uncertainty about the future, but also the many positive developments, like AI enabling better oversight, and what makes for a good fintech-bank partnership.
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Beyond Algorithms: Tips for Building Excellent AI Models
Please, don’t ask ChatGPT to build your credit model. Using machine learning (ML) and AI well is still a struggle for many lenders. Underneath all the buzz about AI, alternative data, and ever-smarter models, there's a lot of hard work and prudence required to implement these techniques safely and to manage the resulting models.
Josh Campos, Head of Enterprise Data Science, AI & ML Engineering at DriveTime, is an expert on just that. He joins Shawn to discuss the practical side of ML and AI in credit risk management. They touch on best practices for data science teams, monitoring and updating models, using alternative data, and why LLMs should come with a warning on the label.
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Fintech Lending Startups: Why it's a Big Swing Business
Derek Flanzraich, founder of Ness, built an impressive company: a credit card assembled from scratch, partnerships with top health brands, content that reached 150,000 people monthly, $50 million raised, and enthusiastic cardholders. Then he shut it down.
This episode is a timely and all-too-rare look at the reality that many start-up founders will face. Sometimes, despite great effort, great ideas fail. On today's episode, we hear Ness's story, which begins with Derek's own health journey. Derek talks about Ness's strategy, successes, challenges, a near save, and unfortunate end.
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Debt Matters: What Fintech Lenders Need to Know
Every fintech founder knows they have to raise equity. Often overlooked is the true fuel of a lending business: debt. The wrong debt deal can cost millions of dollars, compromise profitability, and thwart growth.
On today's episode, Shawn receives a primer on debt deals from Rich Davis, co-chair of the asset-based lending practice at Paul Hastings, and Mike Armstrong, co-founder of Ensemblex. They discuss deal terms to watch out for, deal sizes and different providers, and the state of the market.
Lenders and non-lenders alike will also benefit from Paul and Mike's perspective on leadership (stop telling people what to do), tenacity (you mostly survive suffering), and managing business relationships (speak up when it gets sour.)
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Banking on Fintech? Investors’ POV on Fintech’s Big Reset
Fintech's rout has been painful. In 2023, fintech venture funding was down 44% year-over-year, and for many of the fintech giants, stock prices dropped over 80% from their peak. How did we get here, and will investors still touch fintech?
On today's episode, Kwesi Acquay of Redpoint Ventures and Noah Breslow of Bain Capital Ventures share their outlook on the fintech hype cycle, what qualities make a fintech investable in today's environment, and their predictions for AI's impacts on the industry (are we at the beginning of another hype cycle?)
S1E4
Improving Access to Capital, From Military Evacuees to SMBs
A polyglot with a degree in Slavonic Studies, spurred by the 2021 military evacuation of over 100,000 Afghans to the U.S. to streamline SMB access to capital — Alex McLeod's career path isn't traditional. Motivated by a passion for increasing access to resources and a willingness to lose weekends, Alex is a three-time founder. She currently leads Parlay, a software platform that improves SMB lending at community banks and credit unions. She joins Shawn to discuss the inefficiencies and chaos inhibiting SMB access to capital, mission-driven careers, and whether it's ever a good idea to co-found a company with your partner.
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Wrangling Data (and the zoo): Stories From a Repeat Founder
Start-up life is exciting, demanding, and occasionally bizarre. You may find yourself working from the bathroom or partying with monkeys, lemurs, and camels. So did Stephanie Hanson, today's guest and an indefatigable entrepreneur building her second company, Gestalt. We chat about the challenges of growing a start-up — finances, hiring, and creating a strong culture — and squeezing lots of life in around long work hours.
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Credit Cross-training: Navigating Differences and Universal Credit Truths in Brazil
Emerging markets are full of exciting fintech career opportunities. Pack your bags. Actually, don’t — you’ll Zoom in. On today’s episode, we hear from two U.S. credit execs who joined Brazilian fintechs: Rob Kottmeier, formerly Nubank’s Head of FP&A, and Geoff Thiessen, formerly a VP at Creditas. We discuss the logistics of commuting over 4,000 miles, cultural differences and the importance of breaking for lunch, and how “cross-training” in a new market sharpens your skills.